Re: [-empyre-] summ(er)ing up thank you

[ian clothier <hybridia1@yahoo.com>]

wataway yorlye,

i have had a strangely truncated experience here,
though mainly because i only discovered a few days ago
my email service was consigning some (but not all) the
messages sent to the list, to my junk mail folder.
including the one introducing me. funny.

anyway i have been bouyed somewhat to find at least a
diverse bunch of people concerned about similar
things. that's all that can be asked for. 

i hadn't anticipated coherence of the scene would be
the result of participation. new media here needs
community. and what we have seen here i believe are
some of the outward signs of one developing:
discussion, passion, agreement, celebration and
disagreement.

so thanks to empyre.

ian clothier


--- portholeaccel <portholeaccel@yahoo.com> wrote:

> just wanted to say thank you for this months
> topic 
> i have not been to new zealand in 2 years and
> miss  the art o the people 2 it was nice to be
> exposed agian and revisit.... 
> 
> "THE LAND OWNS YOU, YOU DO NOT OWN THE LAND"
> quotequotequote Maori
> thank you agian 
> Natalie Myers 
> 
> 
> --- Helen Varley Jamieson
> <helen@creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
> 
> > i've been trying to shape some intelligent
> > summing-up comments but 
> > the fact is that summer is what's up in
> > wellington & i just want to 
> > go outside & lie in the sun ...
> > 
> > & it's difficult to sum up a 'discussion' which
> > has been a series of 
> > divergent views & opinions, peering into some
> > corners of aotearoa/nz, 
> > shying away from others, some false starts &
> > stops & back-ups & 
> > moments of brilliance & moments of irritation &
> > random musings & 
> > interesting links ... maybe the whole is not so
> > different from the 
> > reality of being an artist in/from nz/aotearoa.
> > 
> > when thinking about place & home & distance, i
> > keep coming back to 
> > the simple fact of how geographically isolated
> > new zealand is. the 
> > internet allows us to bridge that distance -
> > but close the connection 
> > & the distance is back again. i've met many
> > people in the northern 
> > hemisphere who were astonished to learn that
> > it's at least a 3 hour 
> > flight to get *anywhere* from nz. think london
> > to istanbul, or paris 
> > to moscow - that's how close we are to
> > australia; it's the tasman sea 
> > not the english channel. if you're in europe &
> > someone at home gets 
> > sick or dies, you feel like you're on mars.
> > anyone who's endured the 
> > whole journey in one go (involving 2-3 flights
> > & up to 40 hours in 
> > travel-limbo) then spent 3 days falling asleep
> > at inconvenient times 
> > & unable to concentrate while you wait for your
> > soul to arrive, knows 
> > that distance.
> > 
> > whether it's the whiff of the moss or the sight
> > of the harbour cone, 
> > the first (em)bracing gust of wind or the fine
> > white sand between 
> > your toes, we all recognise the
> > emotional/sensory umbilical cord that 
> > ties us to the land of our birth - and to other
> > significant places (i 
> > also feel it when the old JAT bus rolls me into
> > the dusty streets of 
> > belgrade). we're all from *somewhere* & that
> > fact can be irrelevant 
> > even as it permeates everything.
> > 
> > what does all this have to do with art?
> > everything & nothing, imho 
> > ... it's been a pleasure to have contributed,
> > albeit sporadically, to 
> > aotearoa month on empyre & i hope you've found
> > some small insight(s) 
> > into this corner of the globe amongst it all.
> > 
> > ka kite ano,
> > h : )
> > -- 
> >
>
____________________________________________________________
> > 
> > helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst
> > helen@creative-catalyst.com
> > http://www.creative-catalyst.com
> > http://www.avatarbodycollision.org
> > http://www.writerfind.com/hjamieson.htm
> >
>
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